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[gladiator76]

Unless I get a new position at work that requires me to travel, I'll probably not buy one.  I have no use for it at this time.

[Dafeng]

i like it - really do -

but too pricey and the new "feature" that you cannot get trophies from a used game unless the original owner deletes all trophy content from their vita sort of sealed it for me.

this was not a pirating issue - it was a way to prevent the sale of used games- I wonder if the same feature will be rolled into the PS3 firmware soon

[duncan]

I thought the price was quite reasonable for what you are getting -- the trophy thing seems a bit heavy handed though.

[Ron]

Dafeng, on 29 December 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

you cannot get trophies from a used game unless the original owner deletes all trophy content from their vita sort of sealed it for me.
this was not a pirating issue - it was a way to prevent the sale of used games- I wonder if the same feature will be rolled into the PS3 firmware soon

I've read about it, but I'm still confused...

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Used PS Vita Games Need to be Reset Before Trophies Can be Unlocked - XTREME PSP
This won’t be much of a problem for players that want to start the game from scratch, but it means
you cannot continue your game on a second console without first deleting all your saved data.

Used Vita Game? Erase It Or No Trophies | Gaming News and Opinion at TheSixthAxis.com

[Alindawyl]

Vita games on physical media come on memory cards instead of read only media like the PSP, and the game saves are stored on the SAME MEDIA as the game itself.  Someone who sells a Vita game and does not delete their saves first is selling not just the game but their save files for it.

Sony have locked the trophy earning in a game to the user/console which created the first existing save file on the game memory card.  You can still use those saves; you just won't earn trophies.  If you care about trophies, delete all of those save files and then YOUR account/console will make the first new save and you'll earn trophies for that game under your account.

This makes perfect sense.  You can't use someone else's save in your profile on your PS3 and still earn trophies from it.

The only people who have anything to complain about are those who borrow games from a friend who has not earned all the trophies for it.  But the inconvenience is ONLY trophy related.  The game can still be played.  If the person loaning out the game doesn't care about trophies, they can delete their game saves to let their friend earn trophies.  If they do care about trophies.... well, the game is being borrowed.  The friend should be grateful they get to play it FOR FREE.  If the friend cares about trophies that much, they can buy their own copy just for trophies.

[Munki]

Ahh makes total sense now. I wonder if they have an option to copy the saves to the console, delete them off the card then loan it out.

[MartB64]

So your trophy count will be able to go up and down?
For example, I play a game and Platinum it on my Vita, I synch with PSN, then delete the card data and send it to Munki so he can play it. He plays it and gets 7 bronze trophies.
When I synch with the store again, does it remove all of my trophies for the game, or just the ones Munki got?

I'm intreagued as to how this is not going to make trophy counts a complete farce if this system can be exploited in the way I think it can and will be.

[Alindawyl]

No, trophy count can only go up.  If you loan or give a Vita game to Munki then he'd earn any trophies under Munkiman4u on his Vita, not MartB64 on your Vita.  Your PSN ID is completely unaffected by whatever he does, and his PSN ID is completely unaffected by whatever you do.  It works the exact same way as it would for a PS3 game.  There's nothing to exploit.

[Munki]

I think it means that you platinum something, those stay in your trophy list, it's the saves on the card memory that would need to be deleted if you loaned it out or sold it to, someone. Once those saves are gone off the card, the next person that gets it should be able to earn trophies on it also. They just can't earn trophies as long as those save files from another PSV are on there. Which makes sense, you shouldn't be able to earn trophies off another persons saved data.

[Alindawyl]

Munki, on 30 December 2011 - 07:58 AM, said:

Ahh makes total sense now. I wonder if they have an option to copy the saves to the console, delete them off the card then loan it out.

Unfortunately, the Vita has no internal storage.  That's the one thing I do not like about it.

Whether you can copy saves from one memory card to another I have no idea.

[MartB64]

Alindawyl, on 30 December 2011 - 11:01 AM, said:

Unfortunately, the Vita has no internal storage.  That's the one thing I do not like about it.

Whether you can copy saves from one memory card to another I have no idea.

OK, I think i get it now.
As for copying saves, well you just know that someone is gonna come up with a way for doing that (yes even encrypted ones). Where there's a will, there's a way.

[Mr Vista 360]

Bought a PSP 1000 that supposedly wasn't good enough. I needed the 2000 then the 2000 slim, then I needed the 3000. Had to convert all my movies to MP4, still wasn't in "The cool kids club" till I had the PSP GO which was a TOTAL epic fail. Got a Windows phone that did all the stuff the PSP was trying to do. No thanks. Technology has moved way to far with mobile media of any kind to even try and justify a Playstation handheld product. Grant it at the time is was the thing, but with all the options now-a-days in the...., tablet, phone, netbook, I just can't see it...just can't see it.

[Ron]

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[robzig214]

I think I am going to wait for the MLB The Show 12 Vita launch and see of they have a bundle for it.

[bixby]

Well, just for fun I jumped onto Amazon to price one of these bad lad's out.  Three different versions and they're all expensive.  It is gonna cost the same as, and in some cases more, than a PS3.  As intrigued as I am, i don't know if I'm gonna shell out the money for this.